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an romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. that's great. thank you. >> meanwhile congressman ryan a big green bay packers fan vented about that call on monday night football. went on to compare the nfl's reemrefs, yes, to the obama administration. >> i got to start off on something that was really troubling that occurred last night. did you watch that packer game last nig? i mean, give me a break. i half think that these refs work part-time for the obama administration in the budget office. trying to pick the winners and losers and they don't even do that very well. unlike the seattle seahawks last night,e wa toeshi victory. >> vice president joe biden meanwhile has beenle holding mock debate sessions with chris van holland and campaigned yesterday in the state of virginia, keeping romney's comments about the 47% in his line of attack. >> he attacks the 47 the american people who he says paid no federal taxes. and he attacks, he, romney, attacking someone on taxes? atike me attacking someone for being passionate in politics. >> also yesterd
an romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. that's great. thank you. >> meanwhile congressman ryan a big green bay packers fan vented about that call on monday night football. went on to compare the nfl's reemrefs, yes, to the obama administration. >> i got to start off on something that was really troubling that occurred last night. did you watch that packer game last nig? i mean, give me a break. i half think that these refs work part-time for the obama administration...
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. >>> paul ryan, a green bay packers fan from wisconsin, chimed in on the referee ruling that cost his team a win monday night. ryan joked,quote, i hal think these refs work part-me f tham aision budget office. >>> mitt romney had kind words for bill clinton yesterday, saying a few nice words from bill clinton can do a lot of good, he said. and he joked that he would wait for his clinton bounce in the polls. s on the "tonight show" with jay leno talking about his husband's plans for america's future and she explained to jay how she feels about mitt running for president. >> four years ago i made a deotape and on the videotape, idttis i for you, and sweetheart, i'm never doing this again. >> well, jay also asked ann romney if mitt is a good dancer. she replied he's gotten to be a better dancer. and that's your morning dish of scrambledti elsewhere, missouri republican congressman todd aiken let the deadline to let the senate race pass yesterday without dropping out. he's bound to stay despite pressure within his own party since his lit mate rape comments. last nig on th lor wit lace nn
. >>> paul ryan, a green bay packers fan from wisconsin, chimed in on the referee ruling that cost his team a win monday night. ryan joked,quote, i hal think these refs work part-me f tham aision budget office. >>> mitt romney had kind words for bill clinton yesterday, saying a few nice words from bill clinton can do a lot of good, he said. and he joked that he would wait for his clinton bounce in the polls. s on the "tonight show" with jay leno talking about his...
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paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> ryan's comment were part of the keynote address at a gala dinner hosted by the american spectator. that was in november 201, ten months ago, well before he was considered to be a vice presidential running mate. >>> a pennsylvania judge will let voters go to the polls without photo i.d., upholding a controversial
paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after...
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the contrast underongrsman ryan he ryan's budget, they would cut head start programs, significantly less resourceses for children with disabilities and children who live below the pofrly line and potentially devastating cuts toigher education. that's not where we ne to go as country. >> we'll leathere for right now because as we've been telling everybody this morning, mitt roy in thmney will be spea with brian williams from the new york city public library. th're not ready, but as we talk specifically aboutt ey w ye talking about what congressman ryan's budget plan, mitt romney's specifics are more about vouchers, so that people can choose school choice systems like a crter school for their own kids. where is the distinction in that? becae one thing heralded in chag thehe ftha 52,000 kids there actually went to school -- excuse me, let's go into brian wilams th mitt romney. >> thank you, everody. lemess yhere more burly people with weapons in this building right now than ever before. but enough about steve's senior stf. reer grateful that governor romney has chosen to join us today. we h
the contrast underongrsman ryan he ryan's budget, they would cut head start programs, significantly less resourceses for children with disabilities and children who live below the pofrly line and potentially devastating cuts toigher education. that's not where we ne to go as country. >> we'll leathere for right now because as we've been telling everybody this morning, mitt roy in thmney will be spea with brian williams from the new york city public library. th're not ready, but as we talk...
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in the first interview romney and ryan gave after ryan joined the ticket, bob schieffer pointed out ryan budget plan, including his plan to voucherize, that's a great word, medicare, could be trouble for romney. let's listen. >> there's no question your campaign has been trying to make this a election a referendum on barack obama. now some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i have put out, and that's the budget plan that we're going to run on. >> and again this sunday romney had to distance himself from ryan's positions and assert that he's the man at the top of the ticket. let's listen. >> the president's cutting $716 billion from current medicare. i disagree with that. i'd put those dollars back into medicare. >> mr. ryan has proposed something similar, almost precisely the same number, 716. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself a
in the first interview romney and ryan gave after ryan joined the ticket, bob schieffer pointed out ryan budget plan, including his plan to voucherize, that's a great word, medicare, could be trouble for romney. let's listen. >> there's no question your campaign has been trying to make this a election a referendum on barack obama. now some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i have put out,...
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ask a conservative t diagnose what's wrong with the romney caaignnd y'll ar avef saef let ryan be ryan. of course, it's no mystery why romney isn't heeding these calls. ryan's policy ideas may be gospel on the right but when it comes to general election voters, they're problematic, so ryan h beenuzzled and ford laolen' cut out for. generic vice presidential nominee. this could reap ryan's benefit after the election. conservatives are itching to see and hear more of him. if romney loses, rya can say, hey, guys, i was trying to be a team player. xte l rhe kind of d asyou. campaign we want to run. in the 2016 heavyweight will thus be born. but there's another possibility, too, that ryan wil emerge from the 2012 election ruining the day romney ever put him on the ticket. if y want to know why, you need tkn tto o ry political mentor and what happened to him when he ran for vice president. that would be jack kemp. whefs in his prime, he was ever bit the hero to conservatives that ryan is now. he was thrilled to get back in it when bob dole oed h the number two spot on the ticket. at first it
ask a conservative t diagnose what's wrong with the romney caaignnd y'll ar avef saef let ryan be ryan. of course, it's no mystery why romney isn't heeding these calls. ryan's policy ideas may be gospel on the right but when it comes to general election voters, they're problematic, so ryan h beenuzzled and ford laolen' cut out for. generic vice presidential nominee. this could reap ryan's benefit after the election. conservatives are itching to see and hear more of him. if romney loses, rya can...
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and let ryan be ryan. no, i think if republican insiders had their way, they might let ryan beat romney. if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. snoop folks, have you checked us out on facebook? the "politicsnation" conversation is going all day long. today's hot topic was the right wing voter fraud coming out of florida. tammi says, they accuse the democrats of shenanigans when they are the ones up to no good. and dana says, nice try republicans, but we gotcha. nice one, dana. we've got the full report on that fraud, by the way, coming up next. >>> but, first, we want to hear what you think. head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and "like" us to join the conversation that keeps going long
and let ryan be ryan. no, i think if republican insiders had their way, they might let ryan beat romney. if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. snoop folks, have you checked us out on...
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ryan says, quote, best reaction ever. the kid's father aaron commented, too, saying, high fiving the man he used to call barack obama made my son's night. we want to hear what you think, too. head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and "like" us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. n an entrepreneur's dream.. ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. whatever your business challenge, customer erin swenson bought so, i'm happy. today. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) happy. i love logistics. >>> i think it goes without saying, there's a m
ryan says, quote, best reaction ever. the kid's father aaron commented, too, saying, high fiving the man he used to call barack obama made my son's night. we want to hear what you think, too. head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and "like" us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. n an entrepreneur's dream.. ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever...
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paul ryan also in ohio this hs ki. president obama just the other day, he said on tv that i can't change washington from the side. why do we send presidents to the white house in the first place? isn't that why we send presidents to washington, to ch wng >> this is parentally the new thing that president obama said it's hard to change washington om the inside. mitt romney is on record saying the exact same thing on the presidential campaign trail, but apnthent ito ba scl. which of course is ridiculous. but i highlight that speech for the reason other than the hypocrisy of the dumb change in washington line. and the reason i highlight it is because paul ryan new stump eechs tentiv bring out into foreign policy. kind of. >> i mean, turn on the tv and it reminds you of 1979 tehran, but they're burning our flags in capitals all around the world. they're storming our embassies. d wh is e sial tt ur diplomats government is sending the world. >> paul ryan wants to look like president obama is one-term jimmy carter and paul ry
paul ryan also in ohio this hs ki. president obama just the other day, he said on tv that i can't change washington from the side. why do we send presidents to the white house in the first place? isn't that why we send presidents to washington, to ch wng >> this is parentally the new thing that president obama said it's hard to change washington om the inside. mitt romney is on record saying the exact same thing on the presidential campaign trail, but apnthent ito ba scl. which of course...
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ryan of course completely missed that opportunity. and i think really solidified the romney/ryan view of the 47%. let's listen to that question and answer. >> we have 47% of the people of the united states paying no taxes. federal income tax. is there any way that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and maybe they won't take all the handouts so readily. >> i've got an idea. let's help them get jobs so they can get a good paycheck so then they're good taxpayers. this is the point that mitt and i have been trying to make. and sometimes the point doesn't get made the right way. we don't want a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. >> sometimes the point doesn't get made the right way. jonathan, he sure didn't make it the right way. he says about the 47%, let's help them get jobs. so he thinks the 85-year-old widow who does not pay federal income tax needs to get a job. this was a chance for him to reach out, identify that 47%, and show that he knows what they are s
ryan of course completely missed that opportunity. and i think really solidified the romney/ryan view of the 47%. let's listen to that question and answer. >> we have 47% of the people of the united states paying no taxes. federal income tax. is there any way that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and maybe they won't take all the handouts so readily. >> i've got an idea. let's help them get jobs so they can get...
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paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost mey that was not paid uln d it >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, weill show you why thre dnganazdd aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he wasaught a lesson said abouthmoraty of s nddu tie period by a veteran of that war who taught him a lesson about the people romney thinks of as the takers he thinks are dependant on government. that is comingp. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! she speaketh the truth! [ crowd gasps ] [ woman ] reverend? ♪ can i have some? ♪ >>> why is tearomney sudnly praising team obama? t ginouy romney world is suddenly praising obama. the answer com
paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost mey that was not paid uln d it >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, weill show you why thre dnganazdd aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he wasaught a lesson said abouthmoraty of s nddu tie...
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. >> in paul ryan's state. mind boggling. >> we will talkore about the campaign realities after the brea yoe lng l ahe clinton global initiative in new york city. president obama is expected to speak there in just a few moments. we will bring you his remarks live next on "now." bob... oh, h alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup an, in case i get hit by a mete. eyid photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nasty. here's your "honk if you had an affair wittaylor" yard sign. looks good. now save 50% on banners. something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural no-lorie sweeter made from the goodness of fruit. the rich, sweet taste of sugar. nothing artificial. ♪ 's all that sweet ever needs to be. new nectresse. sweetness natally
. >> in paul ryan's state. mind boggling. >> we will talkore about the campaign realities after the brea yoe lng l ahe clinton global initiative in new york city. president obama is expected to speak there in just a few moments. we will bring you his remarks live next on "now." bob... oh, h alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup an, in case i get hit by a mete. eyid photoshop here. hey, good...
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one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll get some of your responses. i can't believe you're missing chris and joy dancing. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> on the day of the presidential debate, two tapes from the past are creating talking points on both sides of the aisle. from the right, a 2007 tape that news organizations including nbc covered during the 2008 campaign of barack obama
one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll...
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that paul ryan, isn't that something? wait a second. romney, ryan, romney, ryan. >> okay. so i don't know. i heard ryan there. >> it's just all awkward. >> it's all awkward. by the way, when he says he's quite a guy, isn't it? that's what i was laughing at. here's the clip that c-span ran. >> that's quite a guy, isn't it? paul ryan, isn't that something? wait a second, wait a second. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction that our staff read overnight saying kind of hard to follow what it was. this was among the chee-tos brigade as to whether i would vote for mitt romney, is trying to throw the election by filtering a tape and cracking a joke. real
that paul ryan, isn't that something? wait a second. romney, ryan, romney, ryan. >> okay. so i don't know. i heard ryan there. >> it's just all awkward. >> it's all awkward. by the way, when he says he's quite a guy, isn't it? that's what i was laughing at. here's the clip that c-span ran. >> that's quite a guy, isn't it? paul ryan, isn't that something? wait a second, wait a second. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both...
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. >> paul ryan is in new hampshire today. the republican vice presidential nominee will hold a rally in the city of derry in just a few hours. meanwhile, vice president biden is in the battleground state of florida. he's going to attend a campaign event in fort myers this morning. on friday he met with seniors at a retirement village in boca raton. >> governor romney's plan goes into effect it can mean that everyone, every one of you, would be paying more on -- taxes on your social security. >> michelle obama is encouraging young voters to get to the polls. like right now. the first lady spoke to college students in iowa friday, urging them to go into nearby early voting booths to cast their ballots. >> you got a whole month to make it happen. a whole month to vote! as i tell my children, don't procrastinate. no procrastination. make it happen. do it today. >> joining me now, political reporter for "the washington post" felicia somnez and white house correspondent for the hill, amy barnes. good morning. >> good morning. >> so
. >> paul ryan is in new hampshire today. the republican vice presidential nominee will hold a rally in the city of derry in just a few hours. meanwhile, vice president biden is in the battleground state of florida. he's going to attend a campaign event in fort myers this morning. on friday he met with seniors at a retirement village in boca raton. >> governor romney's plan goes into effect it can mean that everyone, every one of you, would be paying more on -- taxes on your social...
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paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to pass new laws in maine, iowa and new hampshire. >>> k the white house glowed a lovely color of pink last night. it's estimated more than 200,000 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer in the u.s. just this year. >>> let's talk about another color, gray. presidents go into office full of vitality and a few years later they often look more than a few years older and grayer. it's not just president obama. research shows that stress does not affect when or how fast your hair turns gray. what does? it's my must-read and up on our facebook page at facebook.com/jansingco. ll come . delicious and whole
paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to...
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the left has a paul ryan video. it's a whole lot of fun. i'm sure you'll love it. >>> first here's bill karins. he's got a check on the forecast. bill. >> morning, joe. maybe you noticed yourself down in d.c., too, the fog, a big issue this morning up and down the big cities from new york city all the way down through philadelphia, baltimore and d.c. give yourself some extra time. i'm sure we're going to have airport delays as the airports get going this morning. some people are saying it's the worst fog they've seen in a long time throughout this region. it will lift by 9:00 or 10:00 a.m. so the heart of it is right now. we will see a few showers during the day but not like yesterday where it really was a rainout in a few spots. temperatures will be very warm and humid. we are going to see a chance of showers in new york city as we go through thursday and then again over the weekend. it's over the weekend that the temperatures drop on the east coast including washington, d.c., and boston with highs in the 50s and 60s. right now all that co
the left has a paul ryan video. it's a whole lot of fun. i'm sure you'll love it. >>> first here's bill karins. he's got a check on the forecast. bill. >> morning, joe. maybe you noticed yourself down in d.c., too, the fog, a big issue this morning up and down the big cities from new york city all the way down through philadelphia, baltimore and d.c. give yourself some extra time. i'm sure we're going to have airport delays as the airports get going this morning. some people are...
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this has been a big 180 for the gop, ryan. santorum is saying that the entire gop needs to get behind akin. roy blount, who initially called for akin to step aside is saying voters will overlook akin's comments and vote for him. the "the huffington post" publication, has an interesting piece this morning where akin is responding to a question about voting against the lilly ledbetter act and saying it's all part of free enterprise and it's about freedom not paying women as much as men. >> that was the argument that was made against the civil rights act too, it's your business, you can do whatever you want with it. but i don't think it's that surprising that some republicans are coming back behind akin here. parties are generally speaking amoral. their job is to get themselves a majority in the senate or the house. whatever they need to do they're going to do to get there. now, it looked for a while like they were going to be able to push him off the ballot. so they all piled on. and they all had this, you know, spas. of more re
this has been a big 180 for the gop, ryan. santorum is saying that the entire gop needs to get behind akin. roy blount, who initially called for akin to step aside is saying voters will overlook akin's comments and vote for him. the "the huffington post" publication, has an interesting piece this morning where akin is responding to a question about voting against the lilly ledbetter act and saying it's all part of free enterprise and it's about freedom not paying women as much as men....
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therest obama's plan, there's romney's sort of plan and ryan's plan. let's take a look at this and the next ten years. so the ten years in front of us and what each proposed. what's interesting is that president obama and congressman ryan have almost the exact same proposal for the next ten years, save $1 trillion from medicare, not by cutting benefits or raising costs to elderly, but reducing payments to hospitals and other kind of providers. interestingly those two are in the same place on the next two years. romney for whatever set of reasons says he doesn't want to do anything in the next ten years, which means that $1 trillion that his vice presidential running mate would save he does not want to save. he's in a different place on the next ten years. so let's go to the period after that. what's the long-term plan that each of these guys has for cost containment. again, very interestingly, president obama congressman ryan want to achieve exactly the same level of medicare spending over the definite future. they want to increase by gdp plus 1.5%. th
therest obama's plan, there's romney's sort of plan and ryan's plan. let's take a look at this and the next ten years. so the ten years in front of us and what each proposed. what's interesting is that president obama and congressman ryan have almost the exact same proposal for the next ten years, save $1 trillion from medicare, not by cutting benefits or raising costs to elderly, but reducing payments to hospitals and other kind of providers. interestingly those two are in the same place on...
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ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> tracie, we appreciate it. thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. this as the war in afghanistan reached a grim milestone sunday with a death of the 2,000th u.s. service member. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel has the details. >> reporter: there has been another insider attack, the so-called green on blue attack, when afghan troops attack and kill their american partners. so far, this year, these kind of attacks have led to at least 20% of american combat deaths in afghanistan. a group of american soldiers were manning a checkpoint, a vehicle control point, when they were approached by two afghan troops. the afghan soldiers walked up to the americans, they exchanged a few words with them. it's not exactly sure what was said between the american soldiers and the afghan soldiers. but then one of the afghan soldiers
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, governor romney said he's running on his budget and not congressman ryan's. let me play that. >> i have my budget plan, as you know, that i put out. that's the budget plan we're going to run on. >> you heard mitt romney there, so is it fair to assume he will follow paul ryan's blueprint? >> his senior adviser ed gillespie said if his budget reached his desk, he would have signed it. reverend norquist said the real leadership in the republican party is not located the in the oval office but in congress, and what republicans really need is sort of a human equivalent of up an auto pen. somebody with enough fingers to sign legislation. if you look at this legislation, it's not just a return to the days of george w. bush. on everything from environmental regulations to abortion to gun rights, it's worse than bush. so some of his centrist supporters they make this argument. this is a guy who seems to believe this is a base election, which is one of the reasons that he chose paul ryan. that he has a history of not only be a mode rate and they saw that when he was go
, governor romney said he's running on his budget and not congressman ryan's. let me play that. >> i have my budget plan, as you know, that i put out. that's the budget plan we're going to run on. >> you heard mitt romney there, so is it fair to assume he will follow paul ryan's blueprint? >> his senior adviser ed gillespie said if his budget reached his desk, he would have signed it. reverend norquist said the real leadership in the republican party is not located the in the...
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here's paul ryan on fox news sunday. >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> but i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. let me say it this way, you can lower tax rates by 20% across the board, by closing loopholes and still have preferences for the middle class for things like charitable deductions for home purchases, for health care. >> where is the math? and is mitt romney going to be under pressure in this debate to produce the specifics as to how it will all add up? >> well, andrea, first that's a laughable question. where's the president's plan? he's had four years, 23 million people don't have work. so let's start with that. >> the question was asked by -- the question was asked by chris wallace on fox, being asked by other republicans, where is the math, how do you add up those tax cuts, even eliminating some deductions, which deductions would you eliminate, let's be specific and how will you do that and reach deficit reduction, which programs wil
here's paul ryan on fox news sunday. >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> but i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. let me say it this way, you can lower tax rates by 20% across the board, by closing loopholes and still have preferences for the middle class for things like charitable deductions for home purchases, for health care. >> where is...
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i've got news for congressman ryan. america is neither in decline and it's never been a good bet to bet against the american people. they have never let this country down. >> all right, joe biden seems to know exactly how to use that 47% comment to the greatest effect. >> big ups to joe biden for rocking the polo shirt. i can't think of the last time someone on a ticket has made such a bold choice. look at the contrast here between joe biden who's setting the issues on the table and paul ryan who frankly doesn't look very gracious when you're asked about missteps on the ticket, if you want to do anything, and i think this is communications and politics 101, if you want to do anything talk about your own missteps. you're the number 2 guy. you're not there to remind people about how your boss made a big error that wasn't just style but was also substance. >> paul ryan was also asked why the romney/ryan team is trailing in the polls. let's listen to his response to that. >> it kind of goes without saying that there is defi
i've got news for congressman ryan. america is neither in decline and it's never been a good bet to bet against the american people. they have never let this country down. >> all right, joe biden seems to know exactly how to use that 47% comment to the greatest effect. >> big ups to joe biden for rocking the polo shirt. i can't think of the last time someone on a ticket has made such a bold choice. look at the contrast here between joe biden who's setting the issues on the table and...
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web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will be new things to talk about, new issues to digest, again, not a great moment for joe biden and clearly one the white house would have rather he not have said. i just don't know that, you know, in two weeks time we're talking about it. >> all right. we'll see what -- whether there's a new gaffe or two or three to replace that one tonight. thank you very much. see you later. joining me in denver, stephanie cutter, deputy campaign manager for the president's re-election effort. where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. beca
web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will...
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paul ryan budget, they're not running on the paul ryan budget. i don't know why they put him on the ticket. >> oh, my god. >> you can do what mitt romney has done. stay away from that stuff as much as you can and you can run this message of, hey, i'm the protest vehicle. if you're unhappy where the economy is, vote out obama. that's the better calculation. we're just finding out that's not enough, but the alternative is worse. >> the alternative is no real alternative because i don't know any republican that toed the far right line in the primaries would have got through the primaries. i looked at some of the positions mitt romney was forced to take. he had to say he would vote no on a 10-1 spending deal. he talked about self-deport addition as an immigration solution. he embraced the paul ryan budget calling it marvelous and medicare vouchers and personhood which is so extreme it failed on the ballot in mississippi, arguably the most pro-life state in the country. one that hurt him in ohio is his embrace of the anti-union ohio sb 5 ballot initia
paul ryan budget, they're not running on the paul ryan budget. i don't know why they put him on the ticket. >> oh, my god. >> you can do what mitt romney has done. stay away from that stuff as much as you can and you can run this message of, hey, i'm the protest vehicle. if you're unhappy where the economy is, vote out obama. that's the better calculation. we're just finding out that's not enough, but the alternative is worse. >> the alternative is no real alternative because...
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paul ryan, also a wisconsinite a ern,eed. i mn, ge me bre. it is time to get the real refs, and you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it rit, it's time to get out. i half think tt the refs work part timeor t oba mira ahege offi. they see a debt crisis and they just ignore and pretend it didn't even happen. they're trying to pick the winners and losers, and they don't even do that very well. >> what a cheap exploitation of something people really ca about. yse ernd rtrti-uni to get the unionized -- see the irony, refs back on the field? what bad speech writing. by the way, he was reading it off the lectern. he couldn't even remember it. >>> next, the story of chris christie and a reporter. the first one of the season anyway. an event yesterday one reersshre is state's full foreclosure laws, its policies. you know what came up next? >> do you have a follow-up question? >> who are you, by the way? >> jim. >> from where? >> channel 7. >> my follow-up would be, m suhangs true. >> next question. >> this i
paul ryan, also a wisconsinite a ern,eed. i mn, ge me bre. it is time to get the real refs, and you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it rit, it's time to get out. i half think tt the refs work part timeor t oba mira ahege offi. they see a debt crisis and they just ignore and pretend it didn't even happen. they're trying to pick the winners and losers, and they don't even do that very well. >> what a cheap exploitation of something people really...
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stay with us. >>> paul ryan has become an intellectual leader of the republican party. >> that is the day things really changed. we were on a path. wde even. well, momentum is very much with us. the medicare issue in this campaign, so we have a message, we have the messengers, we have the money, we had the mobilization. we have a very excellent chance to take back the house. the ree itasshey have been in the campaign, in alphabetical order. medicare, medicare, medicare. and when ryan was chosen, the agent for the destruction of medicare was chosen as the vice presidential candite, well, it clarified the debate for many people in the races that we are active in. >> whatever it says about american politics, the fact is that the balance of power in congress and the house of representatives has been shifting pretty wildly in these st few elections. in a08e mocrs swung 52 seats in their direction. they seized both control of the house and a huge majority in the house. then in 2010, the republicans swung seats back in their direction, and they got control in 2010. and now for this year, bel
stay with us. >>> paul ryan has become an intellectual leader of the republican party. >> that is the day things really changed. we were on a path. wde even. well, momentum is very much with us. the medicare issue in this campaign, so we have a message, we have the messengers, we have the money, we had the mobilization. we have a very excellent chance to take back the house. the ree itasshey have been in the campaign, in alphabetical order. medicare, medicare, medicare. and when...
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a new reaction today from paul ryan. >> we have had some missteps. but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear. and we're giving people a very clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobile and a dynamic economy. you've got the president basically promising four more years like the last four years. and here and there. we have not been able to frame that choice clearly. by the end of the day, people are not going to understand exactly what they have got. >> a voluntary campaign senior advisor is seeking to clarify the president's plan even after the currency of the economy. >> the president's not ga qualifiesed. we have now created 5 million jobs, we're net positive in terms of jobs created. but whole is huge, and we have to create an commit in which the middle class has a chance. we're not going to get back there by getting back to the same policies we have had before. >> the des moines register poll shows a four-point lead in ohio. in ohio the president is currently ahead in -- >>> president obama boarde
a new reaction today from paul ryan. >> we have had some missteps. but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear. and we're giving people a very clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobile and a dynamic economy. you've got the president basically promising four more years like the last four years. and here and there. we have not been able to frame that choice clearly. by the end of the day, people are not going to understand exactly what they...
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and when ryan was chosen, the agent for the destruction of medicare was chosen as the vice pridential id well, it clarified the debate for many people in the races that we are active in. >> whatever it says about american politics, the fact is that the balance of power in congress and the house of representatives has been shifting pretty wildly in these past few elections. in '06 and '08, t democ swg 52ea in their direction. they seized both control of the house and a huge majority in the house. then in 2010, the republicans swung 61 seats back in their direction, and they got control in 2010. and now for this year, beltway common wiz.com says there's really no chce toc cainou seats back to them to take the house back over. but some political scientists say, actually, that is a real possibility, that the democrats could take back the house. and the democrats themselves sounding increasingly confident thathey might do it. d frkly, stranger things have happed, en in tight for the interview is the democratic leader of the house of representatives, nancy pelosi. madame leader, it's great
and when ryan was chosen, the agent for the destruction of medicare was chosen as the vice pridential id well, it clarified the debate for many people in the races that we are active in. >> whatever it says about american politics, the fact is that the balance of power in congress and the house of representatives has been shifting pretty wildly in these past few elections. in '06 and '08, t democ swg 52ea in their direction. they seized both control of the house and a huge majority in the...
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>> energy. >> sort of where they go romney, ryan, romney, ryan, instead of ryan ryan ryan. >> people want to vote for the person they think will win. republicans don't get on their feet as much as democrats do, but some events are so stayed. >> you went to some sarah palin events four years ago. >> many of them. >> people got on their feet for sarah palin and for other people they believe are true blue conservatives. they're just not excited about mitt romney. we have a lot of new polls out today, josh. i was saying a week ago, there's 45 days, time to turn it around, four debates, there's pictures today of of people lining up in ohio to go vote. >> in iowa. already opened up. >> in iowa opening next week and ohio tuesday. >> virginia is already voting. >> virginia is already voting. guess what, you know, you can tell i am an old guy, ran a decade or two ago because you have the rules wrong. thinking back in terms of the 1980 campaign, that's not the reality. look at people lined up to vote. mitt romney has to turn this around now. >> the problem is that adds more -- we have come to
>> energy. >> sort of where they go romney, ryan, romney, ryan, instead of ryan ryan ryan. >> people want to vote for the person they think will win. republicans don't get on their feet as much as democrats do, but some events are so stayed. >> you went to some sarah palin events four years ago. >> many of them. >> people got on their feet for sarah palin and for other people they believe are true blue conservatives. they're just not excited about mitt...
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. >> or he can do what congressman paul ryan did in the interview with fox news said, i don't have time to finish this out. good grief, people will get bored. i hear people say play up your natural weapons you have, and we know the president has his national weapons and so does mitt romney. what do you see as a high point or something effective for both of them. what are the president's natural weapons going in? >> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's weapons? >> romney's weapon is still that executive card. bain and all, he has to say i've gotten it done in business. i know the liabilities attached to the profile, tamron, but that's the bed he chose and he has to h
. >> or he can do what congressman paul ryan did in the interview with fox news said, i don't have time to finish this out. good grief, people will get bored. i hear people say play up your natural weapons you have, and we know the president has his national weapons and so does mitt romney. what do you see as a high point or something effective for both of them. what are the president's natural weapons going in? >> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying...
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it's not really clear where he stands vis-a-vis ryan and ryan's budget he promised us his own budget, but it has yet to appear. and so there is no real atsdi himself out of the primary season. >> still about 40 days till election day. time to turn around. steve, we'll look at your charts a little later. >>> coming up next, we'll bring in chuck todd joe klein of "time" magazine and paul simo rr wngto also going to join us. >>> and up next, jim vandehei with a look at the "politico playbook" and steve ratner with reasons that may explainhe surge in the lls. >>> first bill karins with a utulye rainy est. areas, new york city one of them. we saw that with our times square shot. another area, thunderstorms pushing into portions of jersey. if you're leaving the house in philadelphia, the rain has begun. 95 from philly t wilmon prly o w highway drives. eventually these will work from southern jersey from long branch towards atlantic city. i mentioned new york city, just some light rain. probably only goingo last about another hour or two. a little slow morning drive there. th airports should
it's not really clear where he stands vis-a-vis ryan and ryan's budget he promised us his own budget, but it has yet to appear. and so there is no real atsdi himself out of the primary season. >> still about 40 days till election day. time to turn around. steve, we'll look at your charts a little later. >>> coming up next, we'll bring in chuck todd joe klein of "time" magazine and paul simo rr wngto also going to join us. >>> and up next, jim vandehei with a...
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they think they have a rock star in paul ryan. he'll have the opportunity to be fully unleashed in that 90-minute session with joe biden. one of the things he said to chris wallace today is he's not a line guy. he's not going to try to razzle-dazzle you with some line that sounds like it's been coined and in his back pocket for a month and a half. he's going to talk about the policies he and mitt romney want to put into play. he knows that vice president biden is going to come after him on his medicare and budget. >> how's he going to respond? >> they're ready. they want to be able to make the case to the american people that the real threat to medicare and its future is the president's affordable health care act, which they lovingly refer to as obamacare, and the fact that the president's plan extracts $716 million away to pay for that. what paul ryan isn't telling his supporters is that his budget proposal also extracts that amount, but they say they use that to pay down the debt. >> one of the things i'm most looking forward to
they think they have a rock star in paul ryan. he'll have the opportunity to be fully unleashed in that 90-minute session with joe biden. one of the things he said to chris wallace today is he's not a line guy. he's not going to try to razzle-dazzle you with some line that sounds like it's been coined and in his back pocket for a month and a half. he's going to talk about the policies he and mitt romney want to put into play. he knows that vice president biden is going to come after him on his...
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barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the refere issue. alren ngt the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, thst moment of all time in ovp es tween the green bay packers and politics is still this moment. >> there are 30 teams, but only one packer organization, and that is the greatest football organization ever in america's history. there are on 187 days before traing camp. and 360 days before we go back to miami! wheas e pas e america's real team, and we'll always be winners in the hearts and minds of theeople of wisconsin, therefore i, tommy thomps, governor of the great stofco, ereby proclaim january 27th, 1998, all over wisconsin, green bay packer day in honor of all of you, the fans! congratulations. thank you. >> tommy thompson, from the great state of wiscons -- declaring packers day. he was
barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the refere issue. alren ngt the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, thst moment of all time in ovp es tween the green bay packers and politics is still this moment....
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kids get an education, they have acces to tioc surity system torevahe meet inside restrains that paul ryan thinks works but doesn't work for america. this is real questions on voters' mines and that's changed the dynamic of the election and we're seeing great candates on our side with thatessage who are going to win in november. >>nd i massachusetts, republican scott brown has apologized for what some of his aides did in appearing on this video where they were mocking elizabeth warren for her nativemerican heritage. that is apology sfit d ould te ihi campaign? >> certainly it's up to the people of massachusetts to determine that. they have watched this race, they have seen scott brown tell people to take a look at elizabet warren to determine her heritage, which is frankly offensive tome, peoe in maachutts llaket determination. but i will say this. again, we have a race where elizabeth warren is fighting for the values that american families care about, making se we all have an opportunity that our kids all have access to education, that medicare and medicaid are there for our liitwe n the
kids get an education, they have acces to tioc surity system torevahe meet inside restrains that paul ryan thinks works but doesn't work for america. this is real questions on voters' mines and that's changed the dynamic of the election and we're seeing great candates on our side with thatessage who are going to win in november. >>nd i massachusetts, republican scott brown has apologized for what some of his aides did in appearing on this video where they were mocking elizabeth warren for...
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pa ryan is right. this does have theeel of tehran, 1979. i'm not saying it's goingo go that way. >> . >> butouemr 1979. >> yeah. >> the chaos that ensued and this isn't it but this isn't a bump in the ad. >> but this is not 1979. >> so paul ryan is not right. >> first of all, how do you know it's not 1979? you just said it wasn't and you just saidt wasn't. > id i pbly isn't. >> but we don't know that yet. if i'm president of the united states i don'to what jimmy carter says and call iran a sea of chang like jimmy carter did in 1979. the students were racingowar r assembly. >> isn't your line of issues rather than extracting what the president says during an interview and what the republican candidates view on what he said is, isn't the larger issue that both of these caidates have dismissed a obligation to the american people to tal to u aut what they are doing? the president hasn't had a press conference. the president doesn't take serious questions from journalists. governor romney doesn't take serious questions from journalists. we don't
pa ryan is right. this does have theeel of tehran, 1979. i'm not saying it's goingo go that way. >> . >> butouemr 1979. >> yeah. >> the chaos that ensued and this isn't it but this isn't a bump in the ad. >> but this is not 1979. >> so paul ryan is not right. >> first of all, how do you know it's not 1979? you just said it wasn't and you just saidt wasn't. > id i pbly isn't. >> but we don't know that yet. if i'm president of the united states i...
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and then i think there is a second component and that is that he selected as his running mate paul ryan. paul ryan, someone who is passionate about deconstructing comments of the 47%. >> has romney's campaign done a good job of responding to the criticism? >> he first comes out and says i stand by it basically. number one, that's bad. but then as he's tried to move away from it, he's ended up stumbling all over the place. the other day he was talking about showing empathy by doing health care reform in massachusetts, which simply reinforced that if that's empathy, then barack obama -- >> do you think the president used 47% to box him in? >> i think so but he's got to be careful. obama doesn't want 47%, he wants 51, 52, 53. >> john nichols, great to have you with us. >> the first day or two it was like the waco with the david koresh situation where they're trying to smoke him out. >> todd akin's own campaign is comparing him to a cult leader. >> this is somebody who makes michelm michele bachmann look like a hippie. brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always go
and then i think there is a second component and that is that he selected as his running mate paul ryan. paul ryan, someone who is passionate about deconstructing comments of the 47%. >> has romney's campaign done a good job of responding to the criticism? >> he first comes out and says i stand by it basically. number one, that's bad. but then as he's tried to move away from it, he's ended up stumbling all over the place. the other day he was talking about showing empathy by doing...
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one thing to watch also is in the interview show with paul ryan, paul ryan was asked how does your budget plan add up? he says i'm not really sure i have time to explain that right now. you better believe they will press romney about it on wednesday. that's the kind of thing they have to avoid. >> karen, as alice brought up, foreign policy. that being a hot topic issue in the headlines and also for very good reason. americans want to know what president obama's foreign policy is going for. because of situations that seem to be forever in the lexicon of our conversation. certainly in afghanistan with what we've seen happening there. so karen, with that being said, can the president sharpen what he wants to say knowing that's going to be a vulnerable spot for him. mitt romney wants to prove that americans go through strength. and president obama may not have that philosophy. >> peace through strength is a nice slogan, but the president has unfortunately the burden of knowing the facts on the ground and knowing what is possible and what is not possible. foreign policy is complicated. there a
one thing to watch also is in the interview show with paul ryan, paul ryan was asked how does your budget plan add up? he says i'm not really sure i have time to explain that right now. you better believe they will press romney about it on wednesday. that's the kind of thing they have to avoid. >> karen, as alice brought up, foreign policy. that being a hot topic issue in the headlines and also for very good reason. americans want to know what president obama's foreign policy is going...
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it's not because paul ryan fails to connect with people or people don't know who mitt romney is. i think we are witnessing a full-scale swing in the pendulum. here in wisconsin scott walker survived the recall effort, but you have tammy baldwin pulling ahead of tommy thompson, a double-digit swing from where he was. she used to be trailing after the democratic convention. president obama is pulling ahead in the upper midwest. i think this may be less about -- this is only mitt romney, and mitt has to be mitt and it's all about mitt. this runs deeper than that. this is a sort of recentering of the american electorate we're witnessing. >> let's go back to the political article. it isn't the chair or the ho-hum convention or the looked video or stewart stevens or the improving economy or media bias or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. is it that simple? is the problem at the end of the day that it's the candidate himself? it's mitt romney who perhaps isn't what some thought he would be in terms of a candidate? >> i think it's some of the intangibles that surround the race, but i
it's not because paul ryan fails to connect with people or people don't know who mitt romney is. i think we are witnessing a full-scale swing in the pendulum. here in wisconsin scott walker survived the recall effort, but you have tammy baldwin pulling ahead of tommy thompson, a double-digit swing from where he was. she used to be trailing after the democratic convention. president obama is pulling ahead in the upper midwest. i think this may be less about -- this is only mitt romney, and mitt...
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. >> romney in colorado at a rally and paul ryan on a bus tour of ohio attacked the president on foreign policy. >>urnn th t as --t reminds you of 1979 tehran, but they are burning our flags in capitals all around the world. they are storming our embassies. we have lost four of our diplomats and saying we are going to gutur national security, our milita thatrojects weakness. >> white house has condemned that romney's -- the president was referring to the death of ambassador chris stevens when he used the phrase "bumps in the road." here is press secretaryay t is a certain rather desperate attempt to grasp words and phrases here to find political advante and, in this case, that is profoundly offensive. >> joining me now on behalf of thromney campaign, fmerew rky r, rul. you are here because the bill clinton event is running late and i'm shocked, shocked. >> havingo wait for president clinton to go out and used to tie up traffic for about 45 minutes every move. >> you have figured it ou >> a goo iend >>aymped bween you and mayor bloomberg. the city runs when many of us invii invade it in t
. >> romney in colorado at a rally and paul ryan on a bus tour of ohio attacked the president on foreign policy. >>urnn th t as --t reminds you of 1979 tehran, but they are burning our flags in capitals all around the world. they are storming our embassies. we have lost four of our diplomats and saying we are going to gutur national security, our milita thatrojects weakness. >> white house has condemned that romney's -- the president was referring to the death of ambassador...
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list "300," "top gun" "hurt locker" the military theme "dirty harry" "law and order" "saving private ryan." "pursuit of happiness" and the pro life films "juno" and "knocked up." you can make a conservative themed film -- >> it has to be a good piece of art. >> right. the problem a lot of times talking about is exactly, and i agree with almost everything just said. there are times when the politics of a film essentially doesn't matter or it can communicate in a lot of different levels, they have to concentrate on craft. most of the time these conservative and christian themed films are just not well made. >> andrew, didn't take any alcoholic birjs or lapses in judgment to get you here today i hope from salon.com we both work there. thanks for joining us. >>> the new list of schools that aren't just good for students but the future of america and for once, harvard is not getting top honors. guest which cyclist alma mater is on the list? not mine. and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk t
list "300," "top gun" "hurt locker" the military theme "dirty harry" "law and order" "saving private ryan." "pursuit of happiness" and the pro life films "juno" and "knocked up." you can make a conservative themed film -- >> it has to be a good piece of art. >> right. the problem a lot of times talking about is exactly, and i agree with almost everything just said. there are times when the...